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Southern Baptists '...and their wives'

Here's how the Southern Baptist Convention's recently scolded ethics leader begins a column in praise of the convention's newly elected African-American president:

"Several thousand Southern Baptist pastors, church workers, laymen and their wives, most of them elected representatives ("messengers") from their local churches, witnessed history being made June 19 in New Orleans."

My adding the bold emphasis was probably not necessary to catch your attention either. But this is how SBC leadership views women at best: an add-on in support of men.

Of course, Southern Baptist leaders will talk the equality game but always end up with women being excluded from any key leadership roles. Treat 'em nice, but keep them away from places of power that are exclusively for men.

The growing acceptance of women in every leadership role in society is threatening to good ol' boys who don't want more competition for their positions of authority. Heck, the Georgia Baptist Convention even kicks out churches that dare to call a female pastor.

One one hand, Southern Baptists take bigger actions like that one and creating doctrinal statements that relegate women to secondary status. On the other, there is just the ongoing attitude toward women that is demonstrated by Land's opening remarks in this opinion piece.

It is hard to celebrate the SBC's very late step toward racial equality, that Land commends here, when his very effort begins with a clear example of how gender inequality is still the Southern Baptist way.

Why any women — or those of us who value them — would put up with such is well beyond my understanding.

No, Richard, Southern Baptists aren't arcing toward justice at any commendable pace. They "and (some of) their wives" are stuck in the wrong place.

Reader Comments (10)

Why women in the SBC put up with this second-class citizenship is beyond me. The leaders of the CR used the Bible to exclude women from any positions of leadership. People really need to understand the 2000 BF&M was put together by pretty much by all men. It is unbelievable!

Jun 29, 2012 | Unregistered Commentertommy9999

BTW, I still want to know why Land was not fired. He should have been IMO.

Jun 29, 2012 | Unregistered Commentertommy9999

John!! great Blog. Thank you for saying the things that need to be said

Jun 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTina Bailey

If you read the Bible you would understand the SBC view of women; it is a view of equality but I will not waste my time trying to explain that to a liberal like yourself who believes women can even play the role of husband. I find it amazing that you overlook the fact that the SBC made a historic move in electing a black man as president and choose to harp about an issue that is not even relevant to the article. I am further amazed at the two folks who responded. Once again you have proven it is okay for liberals to cast stones, but if a conservative does then they are hateful and love no one. What a hypocrisy you promote. And, by the way, agree or disagree with "Richard," he deserves to be referred to as "Dr. Land;" that is proper journalism, not to mention human decency.

Jun 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTravis


The SBC is certainly the place you need to be with your narrow interpretation of the "Bible". BTW, I always have to laugh when someone like you does nothing but flame others in their comment. Also, thanks for the journalism lesson, but I will pass on it.

Jun 30, 2012 | Unregistered Commentertommy9999


Have you read your own comments? I see nothing but "flaming others" from yourself, and John Pierce always does his fair share. You prove my point precisely. Liberals can say what they want when they want, and then have the audacity to accuse others of intolerance when they criticize liberals. And, by the way, the journalism lesson was not directed to you, it was to Mr. Pierce. Perhaps a lesson in reading comprehension may prove beneficial.

Jun 30, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTravis


Thanks for the humor. You are one funny non-"liberal."

Jun 30, 2012 | Unregistered Commentertommy9999

Cousin Dixie and family has a good template in the current (Hardy Clemons, July) issue of Baps Today. Maybe the Bama issue only. If So have headquarters put my cousin up online (smile, but nice if you can) asap.
Proves my friend Ron Rash right and his thought in World Made Straight. "Smarts like [hers] just didn't spring up like daisies in a bunch of hogweed." See the line about the 4.0
I'm proud of my first cousin Anne--her Dad and my Momma were brothers and sisters--daughter Dixie and the sterling legacy incarnated in her and family of my Grandfather and grandmother James Columbus and Arrie Lula Jordan.

Jul 2, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterStephen Fox

Fox- You're not the first to note that everybody we write about from Alabama is related:)

Jul 3, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterjpierce

The SBC left me mainly over the issue of women in ministry but I take the position that if the women in the SBC are satisfied with the denomination as it is, why should my chain be jerked? That’s their business. The condescension to Land, not one of my favorite people, is, however, the expected elitist attitude.

Jim Clark

Jul 7, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJim Clark

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